And now, getting back to the original question... Quote: Originally posted by mthompson: Does anyone know if the Cocoa/Carbon developer tools will be included in the B…

WebObjects is different in the tems of what it does... That is what my point is. Think back to the old days off apple you need to use ResEdit to make your resource files. Not othe…

Quote: Originally posted by X Freedom: So my point is this. Apple sould have its tools free. CodeWarrior will make huge advances over Apple tools. Developers (the big gu…

*sigh* May I suggest to read this aricle at Stepwise: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Bus...fBusiness.html [Edit: Stepwise, not Stewise ] [This message has been edited by pr…

Other REAL developers use REALbasic. Alphas of which allow you to create native applications for Classic, Mac OS X, and Windows from the same project. [This message has been edi…

Quote: Originally posted by Wrigley: From what I've heard, even the MacOS Finder in OS X was built using a carbonized version of Codewarrior's PowerPlant. That really …

No, Cocoa/Carbon developer tools are NOT included in the Beta release, but they will apparantly be availalbe free to all registered members of ADC Online (free membership) from mid…

I am wondering if anyone could tell me whether carbon applications created on Mac OS 8/9 using CodeWarrior Pro and the CarbonLib SDK will work on Mac OS X DP3 or DP4. Does the mem…

yes. carbon apps developed in 8*/9* will work in dp3/4. the carbon api isn't finished because apple may still add more functionality. i think it's supposed to be 98% finished. …

nibs, who are you? you're the most active guy in this forum by far, and it seems as though you have an answer to everything Mac OS X. given these, i'm clueless as to what to make o…

Anyone know what the Mac OS X version of Realbasic was made with that it cannot be run on Mac OS 9? Because I think that if it was made using the CarbonLib SDK package with either…

Realbasic made on Codewarrior.. Hee hee.. I know it probably was but for some reason that just strikes me as a funny thought. If it is a carbon app, it should be able to run fine …

The reason you can't run the OS X is that it's likely a Carbon/Mach-O, and not a Carbon/PEF which means that you can't run it on Mac OS 9. And to be clear all, I'd have been spend…

Oh yeah- good point! Completely forgot about that. Injustices? Do tell!!

RealBASIC is written with CodeWarrior. The Carbon version *should* work in both Mac OS 9 and X, but as it is an alpha/beta there may be temporary reasons why it isn't behaving quit…

Yes, there are good reasons why Realbasic is probably made with CodeWarrior. But, anyone know why if you open up the Realbasic application with ResEdit, the last information in th…

No, the 'SIZE' resource has no effect- and if it does, it doesn't really matter because your system has practically unlimited virtual memory. Programs can still have a data and re…

I have put a Carbon program "BasicApp" up in the Mac OS section on my web site at http://members.xoom.com/comosaw/ for anyone looking for a Carbon program to try on Mac OS 8/9. T…

There are 2 forms of Carbon Apps Carbon/Mach-o & Carbon/PEF Mach-o will only run on MacOS X PEF will run on MacOS 8/9/X Appleworks IS a carbon App, and is based on CarbonLib…

I was surprised to read that Apple now say that CarbonLib 1.1 will only be compatible with Mac OS 8.6 and later. Previously CarbonLib 1.0.2 was compatible with Mac OS 8.1 and late…

I would hope that 8.6 or 9.0 are free after OS X is out and selling in stores. If people need it and Apple's not selling it then it should be there in some form.

Considering Mac OS 8.1 supports 68040 Macintoshes, I'm not surprised Apple have dropped support for Carbon on this System.

REALbasic alphas now do indeed run on 8/9 but the Carbon versions require CarbonLib 1.1. You can create classic, Mac OS X, and Windows applications from the same project using REA…

Hi, I intend to install the Darwin binary release. What makes me worry is that the documentation says that the entire drive will be erased and a 1Gb disk image copied to it. Does…

Kiss your partitions goodbye. The readme sez that Darwin will be installed and the remainder of the drive space will be partitioned into one HFS+ drive called Macintosh HD. This …