I will have to wait until at least Monday now I am so jealous. ------------------ We're supposed to sing about piraty things!

I am an ADC Select member, that joined on September 10th. I received my OS X Beta and Developer Tools CDs on Friday, September 22nd. --Xar

Yay, it finally came late today - and this is my first post after finally installing it! Hope everyone else either has theirs or will get it in the next day or two!! ------------…

Still waiting for mine. I'm a select member also. Hopefully tomorrow.

Still waiting for mine...

Still waiting on mine... I joined as a Select member on Sept. 14th.

Hello, I installed the public betA last night and I have been fairly impressed with it, thus far. Last night, i tried compiling HXD, to get myself a native hotline client and serv…

Yes, apple left the dev tools out of MacOS PB for your "protection". If you know what you're doing, you can move the tools over from Darwin and use those to compile hxd and hx. I'v…

Does anyone know if there's an active effort to port Tk to OS X? I use Tcl/Tk and Perl/Tk for a lot of prototyping (and some apps) on my SGI, but without Tk I don't see an easy wa…

I don't know anything about Tk, but Apple's own Interface Builder will be available for download in October sometime (someone here surely knows that exact date), and will be on the…

Haven't used tk but OS X GUI tools should be out Oct 15, don't quote me on that one though. jeff

TK is being ported to MacOS X right now by Jim Ingham. He is now working at Apple, but apparantly doing things not related to TCL/TK, so it's still a side project for him. There's…

Quote: Originally posted by hankdriskill: Does anyone know if there's an active effort to port Tk to OS X? I use Tcl/Tk and Perl/Tk for a lot of prototyping (and some a…

Quote: Originally posted by DTOakey: This may be a dumb question, but have to tried to install the "standard" Unix Tk Perl Module? Also, I'm not in OS X right now, so …

Now, I don't have the beta, but I do have a question: When reading the now outdated /System Overview/, I got the impression that the mac os gui had a window server and a window ma…

WindowMaker and other such window managers are totally different from the "window manager" in OSX. WindowMaker Sawmill, and such are reliant on XWindows. XWindows doesn't exist in …

Oh, no, there is no need persay, it just would be nice to have that much control over the interface without raising compatibility issues. So windowmaker is dependent on X, and in…

No, an X Windowing system has been ported to OS X... you can get it from softrak.stepwise.com . ------------------ Be Happy.

Quote: Originally posted by mac freak: No, an X Windowing system has been ported to OS X... you can get it from softrak.stepwise.com . Under what category? I coul…

You can also kill the window server and run x-windows from the console. It compiles (pretty) cleanly, or binaries are available. Check out http://www.darwininfo.org

There are 2 other possibilities of X windows. A free java based one called weirdx at www.jcraft.com. I found that one to be buggy. Also, as discussed elsewhere on this discussi…

Has anyone installed beta on top of darwin? I am curious since i installed and set up darwin on my free partition, now beta should be here soon and it would be nice to keep my tool…

When installing OS X PB I haven't heard of being able to install it on top of your existing OS, being Darwin. You can however install OS X PB on the partition, but it will remove D…

just installed osX on top of darwin, here is the report: there was a customized install option, but I was unable to uncheck anything, so just proceded with the standard install (n…