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New Resident - ANS 700 Troubleshooting 39 posts Nov 25, 2007 — Nov 30, 2007
I haven't posted much since the forum crash but I got a new toy today, an ANS 700/200. It has some issues but I'm beginning the troubleshooting and hope to have it booting something soon.

Best of all, it was free.

Cool, probably one of Apple largest footprint machines I would think.

Anything special in it?

From my understanding most of those got crushed, not a huge market for the beasts (when shipping is taken into account).

Nice score! :) What are your plans for it, once you get it going?

It's really just an IBM RS/6000 with an Apple sticker on, you know :p

There's not hing wrong with that however, RS/6000s are really top-class UNIX machines. I don't get on that well with AIX but if it annoys you too much I daresay most versions of PPC Linux would run on it too.

Cool, probably one of Apple largest footprint machines I would think.
Anything special in it?

From my understanding most of those got crushed, not a huge market for the beasts (when shipping is taken into account).
There was a Radius video card in one of the slots. I'm assumning that someone has tried the old "use a PCI video card and 9500 ROM SIMM" trick to get it to boot Mac OS before. Other than that, just the 200mhz upgrade processor card, a CD-ROM, DAT drive and several hard drives.

It weighs about 20 pounds more than a Daystar Genesis tower, so it is heavy, probably close to a hundred pounds.

Nice score! :) What are your plans for it, once you get it going?
A file server for the Mac side of my network. The current file server is a WGS8150.

It's really just an IBM RS/6000 with an Apple sticker on, you know
There's nothing wrong with that however, RS/6000s are really top-class UNIX machines. I don't get on that well with AIX but if it annoys you too much I daresay most versions of PPC Linux would run on it too.
YDL has a kernel for the ANS and seems to be the flavor of choice as well as one of the BSD's.

The motherboard looks like a hybrid of the Tsunami from the 9500 class of PowerMac and a RS/6000. Some things are Mac like ADB and Cuda, the non-cascaded interrupts for the PCI slots are very RS as is the on board SCSI and video chip set.

Ooo, I'm a little bit jealous. An ANS would be fun to have for the novelty. :) How many drives can you pack in there?

It's really just an IBM RS/6000 with an Apple sticker on, you know :p
There's not hing wrong with that however, RS/6000s are really top-class UNIX machines. I don't get on that well with AIX but if it annoys you too much I daresay most versions of PPC Linux would run on it too.
Except that there is a limit as to what version of AIX you can run on it.

Most RS/6000s have a limit to what version of AIX they can run ;)

For example, my RS/6000 7030 is limited to 5.1L because it requires MCA support, while my 7043 does not so it can run newer versions. Good on that ANS.

There was a Radius video card in one of the slots. I'm assumning that someone has tried the old "use a PCI video card and 9500 ROM SIMM" trick to get it to boot Mac OS before.
Hi - more likely that it was running Linux and the user wanted better video for running X11. That's certainly what I did with mine. The on board video is not well supported by the newer versions of Linux.

Nice find - enjoy your ANS!

PS: Don't forget to check your power bills. I had to turn mine off due to the cost of running it!

Regards,

Macdownunder

Hi - more likely that it was running Linux and the user wanted better video for running X11. That's certainly what I did with mine. The on board video is not well supported by the newer versions of Linux.
Nice find - enjoy your ANS!

PS: Don't forget to check your power bills. I had to turn mine off due to the cost of running it!

Regards,

Macdownunder
Sounds very likely.

As for the power bills, I have a somewhat large house with a pool and a ton of appliances. Our average power bill runs around $7-800 a month. I might not even notice the ANS.

Sounds very likely.

As for the power bills, I have a somewhat large house with a pool and a ton of appliances. Our average power bill runs around $7-800 a month. I might not even notice the ANS.
Good grief! When mine is $200 it's too much. Then again I have a smaller house. :)

Good grief! When mine is $200 it's too much. Then again I have a smaller house. :)
It's 4500 sqft of conditioned space. Plus Texas has the highest unregulated electricity rates in the US. We are lucky being served by a power co-op or our bill would be 30-40% higher than it is.

You live in the Carolinas too, which is a much cooler climate. We finally got to switch off the airco on Thanksgiving when temps dropped below the high 80's. We have to use the airco almost every month. The downside is large electric bills, the upside is low gas bills for heating. We use more gas knocking the chill off the pool to let the kids swim at Christmas and through out the winter than we do heating the house.

We use more gas knocking the chill off the pool to let the kids swim at Christmas and through out the winter than we do heating the house.
What??? Make 'em get in and tell 'em to LIKE it! You put up with heat the rest of the year, ya ungrateful snots, enjoy the chill while it lasts.

;) :D

Bar fridge?

Wha?

80's around thanksgiving? I slipped on ice walking home from school today, and you have the AC on?

I hate Ohio.

No ice here, just rain. Move away from the snow belt called the great lakes.

I'm actually to close to the lake to be in the snow belt, I'm about 1/2 mile away from the lake. About 1 mile away from me is when the snow gets bad.

Though it is cold out now. Not as cold as it will be in a month, but I just have summer in mind.

Nice score on that ANS 700.

I wouldn't mind having one. I'd strip of course and install a more modern Mac inside it's behemoth hull. A beautiful case just screaming ot be packed to the gills with hardware.

Currently it's slightly under 60 degrees in Raleigh, NC. It's been in the 70's frequently until the last couple of weeks.

What on earth did that have anything to do with this thread? Mods, please remove it. Anywya, why would you do that? They are very rare!

I think I'd be evicted if I dragged one of those home.

Sounds very likely.

As for the power bills, I have a somewhat large house with a pool and a ton of appliances. Our average power bill runs around $7-800 a month. I might not even notice the ANS.
Good grief! When mine is $200 it's too much. Then again I have a smaller house. :)
Our power bill recently came in at about $150. The parents went through the roof! ("You use too many computers!" or something like that, apparently)

Some places have a peak usage fee, so not only do you pay for the KW hours you use, but if you have too much on at once and the amp draw to the house goes over a limit you get hit by that as well.

Its been a while since I actualy bothered to read my bill. The heating bill in the winter has been more then the power bill in the summer even with the central air on all the time. I have run a few machines at once before, generally 2 were on (whatever I was working on and my server) and sometimes a few more.

Jeebus blackcube! Our power bill for the entire farm is $900 a month over the winter (it goes down a bit in summer). That's with several 3,5,7,10 + 15 HP motors running plus the compressor for the bulk milk tank, plus the water tank heaters (4 @ 1500W each) plus the house, and the shop, and the block heaters for the tractors and Bobcat and the 3 barn fans, and more. You must be using lots and lots of power!

Power in Wisconsin is probably cheaper though...

A farm, in Wisconsin. Do you make cheese?

Power in Wisconsin is probably cheaper though...
A farm, in Wisconsin. Do you make cheese?
The last time I checked we are paying $0.113 per kWh.

$.063 per kWh here, residential (current bill).

$.063 per kWh here, residential (current bill).
As usual the state government has totally screwed the public with deregulation. Power rates were under 7 cents kwh now on a normal retail provider they can be as high at 18 cents. We are paying 11 cents because our retail provider is a member owner co-op utility.

If you will sign a long term contract, commercial rates are actually lower than residential at time.

All in all, I think I pay just under a dollar, as of today's exchange rates..

$.063 is 6.3 Cents a kWh.. if you are paying $1 something is a bit wrong paws, better check again.

Blackcube: What kind of fuel source do you guys use for electricity there? Not sure if they use nuclear here or natural gas. Makes a big difference, if they use oil for generation then I can see the prices being higher.

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