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Where is The Line that Is Verry Opisite Of Cold?
Any updates? I got my PowerBook 150 on the web and have a lack of things to put on itwow I'm sorry, i'll definitely get on this asap when I get home, but as has been said there currently is unfortunately little I can do ...even ssh is not working.I just hope the mac itself hasn't finally kicked the bucket.p
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it was back up for a little bit but I guess it's back down. That's one unstable server you got there.
Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on. When I get back home for christmas I'll probably run memtest as the RAM may be going bad.
When I get back home for christmas I'll probably run memtest as the RAM may be going bad.
After quite a search through some chat logs I found kdxvcfa.dyndns.ws. Because preterhuman.net was down and I found kdxvcfa.dyndns.ws through preterhuman.net, I thought all hopes were lost, but haha, nope. I found this thread. [] ]'>
Is ueberlandowiki.net down, hotline- or KDX-wise? I nmapped it ( [
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only to discover that it had some kind of connection-refusing FTP service open among a few other things that look admin-related (okay, to save anybody curious a scan too, 20, 21, 80, 88 (HTTP thingy, password protected), 113, 548 and 3389 (yes, remote desktop, but again, password protected of course)). If an admin dislikes that I've noted the ports here, feel free to edit this.
I'm looking forward to these servers being back up again. :b&w:
Also, can someone provide a description (or a link to one) of what these archives are, how big they are, etc to someone who might have space available but doesn't know where they'd stand legally if they mirrored this? I might have at least one place who might be able to do a batch download if you can convince them that the dreamhost account in question won't go *poof* one day
-dav7
] ]'>Is ueberlandowiki.net down, hotline- or KDX-wise? I nmapped it ( [
] ]'> only to discover that it had some kind of connection-refusing FTP service open among a few other things that look admin-related (okay, to save anybody curious a scan too, 20, 21, 80, 88 (HTTP thingy, password protected), 113, 548 and 3389 (yes, remote desktop, but again, password protected of course)). If an admin dislikes that I've noted the ports here, feel free to edit this.I'm looking forward to these servers being back up again.
:b&w:Also, can someone provide a description (or a link to one) of what these archives are, how big they are, etc to someone who might have space available but doesn't know where they'd stand legally if they mirrored this? I might have at least one place who might be able to do a batch download if you can convince them that the dreamhost account in question won't go *poof* one day
-dav7
ueberlandowiki.net's vintage software services were permanently closed quite a while ago.
I'm sorry, I'm not sure why it went down again. I'll be home again
next week for christmas break at which point I'll run the AHT
overnight in a loop to see if it catches anything. It's running on a
old Powerbook whose keyboard has already gone and I fear that the rest
of it may now be going too. If AHT catches anything I'll likely need
to ask for that part to be donated (e.g. if it's RAM) or I'll just
need a donated server if it's anything serious (e.g. logic board). I'm
going to try my best to bring everything back up and in a stable state
as soon as possible but currently it isn't looking too promising.
Btw, it's interesting to see how many people use my services since now that it's down there's all sorts of people emailing me asking me what's up. And yet, not a single donation was given to me either by PayPal or credit card and somehow people expect me, a college student, to just pull money out of thin air to fix hardware issues. Depending on what AHT catches I /will/ need donations or the service isn't coming back.
I'm sorry, I'm not sure why it went down again. I'll be home again
next week for christmas break at which point I'll run the AHT
overnight in a loop to see if it catches anything. It's running on a
old Powerbook whose keyboard has already gone and I fear that the rest
of it may now be going too. If AHT catches anything I'll likely need
to ask for that part to be donated (e.g. if it's RAM) or I'll just
need a donated server if it's anything serious (e.g. logic board). I'm
going to try my best to bring everything back up and in a stable state
as soon as possible but currently it isn't looking too promising.
Btw, it's interesting to see how many people use my services since now that it's down there's all sorts of people emailing me asking me what's up. And yet, not a single donation was given to me either by PayPal or credit card and somehow people expect me, a college student, to just pull money out of thin air to fix hardware issues. Depending on what AHT catches I /will/ need donations or the service isn't coming back.
Looks like someone's in need of a conquest. 
Are you sure it isn't your ISP kicking you off?
Are you sure it isn't your ISP kicking you off?
Yeah, I know it's not my ISP because I still get the system update emails and at least last time I wasn't able to access any of the services locally over the LAN either. So I can only assume this is a hardware issue which I plan to confirm next week. I'll keep you guys updated...
no it's not. I tried to connect to it to get something for the hotline server I am setting up on the WGS 9650 I conquested yesterday, but I am getting a connection timeout message.
Same here.
Read the full page!
ok, so does anyone happen to have another server? I checked out preterhuman now that it is back up, but the file are not there yet.
I keep telling people, you all gotta donate. If you really want this service to last, donate to the man! He has gotten NOTHING for his troubles.
I'd be extremely happy to donate, but I'm flat out broke, at the moment.
I'd be extremely happy to donate, but I'm flat out broke, at the moment.
You are spot on! I've given out many GBs of bandwidth for absolutely nothing, and now that the server is going south people are expecting me to fix it with the money I just happen to have floating around. The reality is, I've been sharing with people but they haven't been sharing with me. I hardly get any uploads contributed, and even though I clearly have a PayPal donate button on my archive's website which accepts not just PayPal but regular credit cards I've yet to receive any donations of any amount. You have to realize that offering these files for download is expensive, both in terms of bandwidth and in server resources. I've spent hundreds of dollars out of pocket to ensure that there is plenty of space for the archive files, and might have to spend a pretty penny to fix whatever is wrong with the server. The question is, how much do I have to give to this community before people give back?I keep telling people, you all gotta donate. If you really want this service to last, donate to the man! He has gotten NOTHING for his troubles.
I'd be extremely happy to donate, but I'm flat out broke, at the moment.
Try reading the whole thread before complaining
Nobody asked you to do this.
and I may just stop doing it, we'll see how bad things are with the server and how willing people are to give back. But consider that if I do permanently stop my service, as things are now there aren't many places you can find the files I've been offering...
How can you honestly expect people to donate to a service that is providing illegal pirated materials? Really...
If you don't want to donate, and possibly as a result see one of the few remaining sources for these vintage computing community files disappear then that's fine. Just remember that when you're looking for a utility for your compact mac and you can't find it....
He has a point crew. If he's running this thing, regardless of the contents of it, you're taking whatever you need from his server and offering nothing in return for his efforts. You could argue "nobody asked him to do this", but should it go under there will soon enough be complaints that "there's nowhere to find old Mac resources".
Take your pick.
Take your pick.
Whoever is about to head to the coffee shop: Spend that few bucks donating instead!
In the meantime, you should probably set up some ads on the main page, so you can get funds for the server. I'm not sure why you didn't think of that before. :-/
Good idea. If you get money on a per hit basis you could rack up quite a bit of cash.
what ad companies pay publishers by impressions? I know google adsense is just by clicks...
Unfortunately I don't think any of the ad companies that do pay just by impressions will allow the ads to be displayed on a download page like that.
I don't think it's unreasonable for John to want a little bit in the way of donations to keep the resource running, especially because up to this point he's paid for everything out of his own pocket, and because everybody seems to expect it to be up and running like it was a given.
In the 1990s, people paid fairly hefty monthly sums to the operators of hotline servers for an account so they could upload and download as they wanted.
I don't think it's unreasonable for John to want a little bit in the way of donations to keep the resource running, especially because up to this point he's paid for everything out of his own pocket, and because everybody seems to expect it to be up and running like it was a given.
In the 1990s, people paid fairly hefty monthly sums to the operators of hotline servers for an account so they could upload and download as they wanted.
Ok, I've got the cash ready. In the next few days I gotta put the machine online on my home network and do a bunch of security updates and working on some of the code. I may also do a few additions to the archive and finish the search engine index as it is only around half complete. The last problem is booking a day off work to get it all set up at the DC.
I'll be removing the donate links on my site and putting advertisements up in certain areas. The big bandwidth killer for me was the text archive on the website but the only donations came from Hotline/KDX users. Figured I should try a different route as the donations over the past 7 years total something like $120.
I'll be removing the donate links on my site and putting advertisements up in certain areas. The big bandwidth killer for me was the text archive on the website but the only donations came from Hotline/KDX users. Figured I should try a different route as the donations over the past 7 years total something like $120.
How's it coming?
If you need any help setting stuff up, count me in. If the server runs Mac OS it'll be a learning experience, but I do know how to use Linux.
I also know HTML/CSS (although I don't like it), PHP and C, so I can help with writing stuff if that helps.
Also, I PMed you a few URLs you might want to download into the archive directly - they definitely violate a few distribution rules, but since it's a vintage archive type thing you might appreciate them. Unless you already have them.
-dav7
I also know HTML/CSS (although I don't like it), PHP and C, so I can help with writing stuff if that helps.
Also, I PMed you a few URLs you might want to download into the archive directly - they definitely violate a few distribution rules, but since it's a vintage archive type thing you might appreciate them. Unless you already have them.
-dav7
Haven't had the chance to boot up the server yet. Probably this weekend I'll do the updates and then try getting to the DC next weekend.
Server runs debian linux. Been using debian for about 10 years now. The secondary web server is a Mac Mini with debian linux, but that won't be going online for a while as it isn't required for operation. The DNS/mail and third web server is on a p4 laptop with openvz virtualization but that as well isn't required right away.
Server runs debian linux. Been using debian for about 10 years now. The secondary web server is a Mac Mini with debian linux, but that won't be going online for a while as it isn't required for operation. The DNS/mail and third web server is on a p4 laptop with openvz virtualization but that as well isn't required right away.
Woot. ;D
;D
Well? Where is the hotline server?