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? sharing files with Win98se
I need help sharing files between my iBook and my wife's PC.
I am using a Linksys WAP/router/switch for connecting our computers to Roadrunner. I am using wireless for my iBook and the PC is connected through the switch. I am using all of the default DNS settings to connect to the internet, and until recently I have not had a need to pass files between the computers.
iBook OS X 10.1.5
Compaq laptop Windows 98SE
How do I need to configure my network settings to be able to see the other computer.
Thanks
I am using a Linksys WAP/router/switch for connecting our computers to Roadrunner. I am using wireless for my iBook and the PC is connected through the switch. I am using all of the default DNS settings to connect to the internet, and until recently I have not had a need to pass files between the computers.
iBook OS X 10.1.5
Compaq laptop Windows 98SE
How do I need to configure my network settings to be able to see the other computer.
Thanks
you will need either DAVE 3.x (thursby.com) or one of the various SMB utils out there. go to versiontracker.com and their mac os x tab and search for them.
if you had OS X 10.2 (jaguar), you wouldn't need any 'extras', as Jaguar makes it pretty simple.
if you had OS X 10.2 (jaguar), you wouldn't need any 'extras', as Jaguar makes it pretty simple.
hi,
i've got jagwire and win 98. i can't figure it out tho.
i have a password on my pc harddisk, i have selected windows sharing in jagwire and i have even added an extra user to log in from my pc. my mac says that i can log in at //10.0.0.9/wiel. what does \that mean? i also use a ethernet modem/ router. i used to use dave, but that's not available for jagwire yet. btw i also tried it with a crossover cable, but that doesn't work either. both my mac and pc work fine with the router.
what do forget?
i will try with win 2000. i've read in some thread a while ago, that win 98 doesn't support samba.
i've got jagwire and win 98. i can't figure it out tho.
i have a password on my pc harddisk, i have selected windows sharing in jagwire and i have even added an extra user to log in from my pc. my mac says that i can log in at //10.0.0.9/wiel. what does \that mean? i also use a ethernet modem/ router. i used to use dave, but that's not available for jagwire yet. btw i also tried it with a crossover cable, but that doesn't work either. both my mac and pc work fine with the router.
what do forget?
i will try with win 2000. i've read in some thread a while ago, that win 98 doesn't support samba.
Just alot of ******** you ask me. Can't say I am impressed. First of all, you have to type name and password to first get in (even on 98 pc's), and you can only mount 1 volume, you have to reconnect to mount another one.
When you are on a lan party with 200 other pc's, you don't want to type this everytime, and then get 200 shared discs on the desktop (or in "Computer"), isn't to cool. And say one PC guy restarts his machine, without telling me, Jaguar will crash (or wait for 10 minuts) THE BEACHBALL OF DEATH.
If you want real smb (windows lan), I would recommend Mac OS 9 and Dave. Mac OS X and Dave is also good (but no browsing, without connecting to the server).
Not once (!!) have I managed to get a pc to connect to my machine, not even through ftp. When the mac appear on the pc, you are not allowed to write a user name or password (not in 95,98 and ME). Dave made this possible, Dave rules.
One other thing, ever tried to copy a large file from SMB pc to your HD, haha funny. Finder crashes !! And no file. Get SNAX then it works, and quit the finder (you must the "Dave Browser" to mount).
Mostly all the Windows I talk about is 98 or ME., don't know how it works in NT based systems.
As I said, it sucks.
When you are on a lan party with 200 other pc's, you don't want to type this everytime, and then get 200 shared discs on the desktop (or in "Computer"), isn't to cool. And say one PC guy restarts his machine, without telling me, Jaguar will crash (or wait for 10 minuts) THE BEACHBALL OF DEATH.
If you want real smb (windows lan), I would recommend Mac OS 9 and Dave. Mac OS X and Dave is also good (but no browsing, without connecting to the server).
Not once (!!) have I managed to get a pc to connect to my machine, not even through ftp. When the mac appear on the pc, you are not allowed to write a user name or password (not in 95,98 and ME). Dave made this possible, Dave rules.
One other thing, ever tried to copy a large file from SMB pc to your HD, haha funny. Finder crashes !! And no file. Get SNAX then it works, and quit the finder (you must the "Dave Browser" to mount).
Mostly all the Windows I talk about is 98 or ME., don't know how it works in NT based systems.
As I said, it sucks.
While windows file sharing on the Mac isn't as smooth and easy as I hoped it would be, its useable.
Sicne you're not running Mac OS 10.2 or a samba sharing program such as DAVE, the PC will have to be the one sharing files while your Mac acts as a client and copies it onto the PC.
File sharing on Windows is relatively straightforward (even more straightforward than Apple's implementation in Jaguar). Simply right-click on a folder and choose Sharing. Make sure you're allowed to write files onto the folder (select Full access). You won't need to put a password unless you want to. If you don't see the Sharing option, you'll have to install the File and Printer sharing services (you may need the Windows installation CD). Go to Control Panel > Network. Click on File and Print Sharing. Check the options you want and click on Ok. click on once more. You may need to reboot.
On the Mac side, choose "Connect to Server" from the Go menu. Sometimes your Mac will list the available computers on the network. Sometimes it won't. What affects this usually is if both computers are on the same workgroup. On Windows, you can configure what workgroup you belong to in the Network control panel. On Macs, the default is "WORKGROUP." In any case, a sure fire way is to type in smb://ip.address/ and click on Ok. If all goes well, Mac OS X should show you a list of "shares" on the Windows side. Click on OK. You may have to type in a password if you specified one when sharing from Windows. If all goes well, you should be able to copy files onto Windows from your Mac.
To configure your Mac for sharing files with PCs, I strongly recommend you get the Samba Sharing Package from VersionTracker.com or MacUpdate.com. Its a preference pane/application combo that makes sharing files on the Mac a wee-bit easier. It doesn't provide an integrated a feel as Windows, but it can get the job done.
I frequently run into not seeing computers on the network if I specify a WINS server on the Mac. What helps smoothen things out is that I always specify them to be on the same workgroup.
Sicne you're not running Mac OS 10.2 or a samba sharing program such as DAVE, the PC will have to be the one sharing files while your Mac acts as a client and copies it onto the PC.
File sharing on Windows is relatively straightforward (even more straightforward than Apple's implementation in Jaguar). Simply right-click on a folder and choose Sharing. Make sure you're allowed to write files onto the folder (select Full access). You won't need to put a password unless you want to. If you don't see the Sharing option, you'll have to install the File and Printer sharing services (you may need the Windows installation CD). Go to Control Panel > Network. Click on File and Print Sharing. Check the options you want and click on Ok. click on once more. You may need to reboot.
On the Mac side, choose "Connect to Server" from the Go menu. Sometimes your Mac will list the available computers on the network. Sometimes it won't. What affects this usually is if both computers are on the same workgroup. On Windows, you can configure what workgroup you belong to in the Network control panel. On Macs, the default is "WORKGROUP." In any case, a sure fire way is to type in smb://ip.address/ and click on Ok. If all goes well, Mac OS X should show you a list of "shares" on the Windows side. Click on OK. You may have to type in a password if you specified one when sharing from Windows. If all goes well, you should be able to copy files onto Windows from your Mac.
To configure your Mac for sharing files with PCs, I strongly recommend you get the Samba Sharing Package from VersionTracker.com or MacUpdate.com. Its a preference pane/application combo that makes sharing files on the Mac a wee-bit easier. It doesn't provide an integrated a feel as Windows, but it can get the job done.
I frequently run into not seeing computers on the network if I specify a WINS server on the Mac. What helps smoothen things out is that I always specify them to be on the same workgroup.
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Originally posted by ginoledesma: While windows file sharing on the Mac isn't as smooth and easy as I hoped it would be, its useable.<<Snipped good, thorough discussion of technical details>> |
Since I started out with PCs, the idiom (I _Will NOT_ say "paradigm") differences between PCs and Macs gave me some problems, but they're really only minor differences. Frankly, since both user interfaces came from Xerox PARC, there shouldn't be too many differences at all. However, the technical implementations of some shared features, such as networking, are details that often must be different because of hardware differences.
The differences are sort of like driving a car built for the US, then driving one built for the UK-very similar, but since I grew up in North America, I sure don't want to try driving a stick shift in England! Too much of a difference for my personal coordination to deal with. If your toys are too difficult for you, get simpler toys, or play simpler games with them. (Ok, I've cooled off now.)